Dear NEST users,
I would like to ask you if there is any way to have an AdEx neuron model firing at specific times (ms) in NEST.
Kind regards,
Dear Nikolaos,
Just to be sure that I understand you correctly: You want to make an AdEx neuron fire at, e.g., times 10.5 ms, 15.8 ms and 23.4 ms during your simulation? I assume those «forced» spikes should be in addition to the spikes the neuron anyway fires, driven by input? Should these «forced» spikes affect the adapting mechanism in the neuron or just be added to the output spike train?
Best, Hans Ekkehard
On 21 Oct 2019, at 08:58, Nikolaos Chrysanthidis nchr@kth.se wrote:
Dear NEST users,
I would like to ask you if there is any way to have an AdEx neuron model firing at specific times (ms) in NEST.
Kind regards,
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Dear prof. Plesser,
As you very well stated, I want to force an AdEx neuron to fire at e.g., times 10.5 ms, 15.8 ms and 23.4 ms during a simulation. The output spike train should be consisted of only the forced spikes, since there isn't any input. The aim is to keep track of the weight change of its plastic synapse by having complete control of the neuron's output spike train.
Thank you very much, I hope there is a way of implementing that.
Kind regards,
________________________________ From: Hans Ekkehard Plesser hans.ekkehard.plesser@nmbu.no Sent: 21 October 2019 16:27 To: users@nest-simulator.org Subject: [NEST Users] Re: precise firing events
Dear Nikolaos,
Just to be sure that I understand you correctly: You want to make an AdEx neuron fire at, e.g., times 10.5 ms, 15.8 ms and 23.4 ms during your simulation? I assume those «forced» spikes should be in addition to the spikes the neuron anyway fires, driven by input? Should these «forced» spikes affect the adapting mechanism in the neuron or just be added to the output spike train?
Best, Hans Ekkehard
On 21 Oct 2019, at 08:58, Nikolaos Chrysanthidis nchr@kth.se wrote:
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Dear NEST users,
I would like to ask you if there is any way to have an AdEx neuron model firing at specific times (ms) in NEST.
Kind regards,
_______________________________________________ NEST Users mailing list -- users@nest-simulator.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@nest-simulator.org
Dear Nikolaos,
As you very well stated, I want to force an AdEx neuron to fire at e.g., times 10.5 ms, 15.8 ms and 23.4 ms during a simulation. The output spike train should be consisted of only the forced spikes, since there isn't any input. The aim is to keep track of the weight change of its plastic synapse by having complete control of the neuron's output spike train.
You write that you want to keep track of weight change of "its plastic synapse". So I assume you have a neuron A and a neuron B, with A sending spikes to B via a plastic synapse. You want A to emit spikes at predefined times, and then study the weight change in the synapse from A onto B.
If plasticity is STDP, you probably want to control spike trains in A and B completely. In that case, the best approach would be to use parrot neurons fed by spike generators, with the plastic synapse between the parrot neurons.
Controlling spike times in other neurons is not possible and I would consider it not useful in the long run to introduce such a possiblity, because it mixes the concept of a neuron (which receives input and emits output in response to that input) and stimulating devices (which emit spikes or currents as prescribed by the user).
Best, Hans Ekkehard
Thank you very much, I hope there is a way of implementing that.
Kind regards,
________________________________ From: Hans Ekkehard Plesser <hans.ekkehard.plesser@nmbu.nomailto:hans.ekkehard.plesser@nmbu.no> Sent: 21 October 2019 16:27 To: users@nest-simulator.orgmailto:users@nest-simulator.org Subject: [NEST Users] Re: precise firing events
Dear Nikolaos,
Just to be sure that I understand you correctly: You want to make an AdEx neuron fire at, e.g., times 10.5 ms, 15.8 ms and 23.4 ms during your simulation? I assume those «forced» spikes should be in addition to the spikes the neuron anyway fires, driven by input? Should these «forced» spikes affect the adapting mechanism in the neuron or just be added to the output spike train?
Best, Hans Ekkehard
On 21 Oct 2019, at 08:58, Nikolaos Chrysanthidis <nchr@kth.semailto:nchr@kth.se> wrote:
Dear NEST users,
I would like to ask you if there is any way to have an AdEx neuron model firing at specific times (ms) in NEST.
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Phone +47 6723 1560 Email hans.ekkehard.plesser@nmbu.no Home http://arken.nmbu.no/~plesser
Dear prof. Plesser,
I have tried that approach, that is, to have a parrot neuron A and parrot neuron B connected with a plastic synapse. However, the plastic synapse is not an STDP one, but a custom-built plastic synapse which uses AMPA receptor. Thus, when I try to connect A with B, NEST yields the following error: " NESTError: UnknownReceptorType in Connect_g_g_D_D: Receptor type 1 is not available in parrot_neuron_ps." How could I cope with that issue?
Kind regards,
________________________________ From: Hans Ekkehard Plesser hans.ekkehard.plesser@nmbu.no Sent: 21 October 2019 21:36 To: users@nest-simulator.org Subject: [NEST Users] Re: precise firing events
Dear Nikolaos,
As you very well stated, I want to force an AdEx neuron to fire at e.g., times 10.5 ms, 15.8 ms and 23.4 ms during a simulation. The output spike train should be consisted of only the forced spikes, since there isn't any input. The aim is to keep track of the weight change of its plastic synapse by having complete control of the neuron's output spike train.
You write that you want to keep track of weight change of "its plastic synapse". So I assume you have a neuron A and a neuron B, with A sending spikes to B via a plastic synapse. You want A to emit spikes at predefined times, and then study the weight change in the synapse from A onto B.
If plasticity is STDP, you probably want to control spike trains in A and B completely. In that case, the best approach would be to use parrot neurons fed by spike generators, with the plastic synapse between the parrot neurons.
Controlling spike times in other neurons is not possible and I would consider it not useful in the long run to introduce such a possiblity, because it mixes the concept of a neuron (which receives input and emits output in response to that input) and stimulating devices (which emit spikes or currents as prescribed by the user).
Best, Hans Ekkehard
Thank you very much, I hope there is a way of implementing that.
Kind regards,
________________________________ From: Hans Ekkehard Plesser <hans.ekkehard.plesser@nmbu.nomailto:hans.ekkehard.plesser@nmbu.no> Sent: 21 October 2019 16:27 To: users@nest-simulator.orgmailto:users@nest-simulator.org Subject: [NEST Users] Re: precise firing events
Dear Nikolaos,
Just to be sure that I understand you correctly: You want to make an AdEx neuron fire at, e.g., times 10.5 ms, 15.8 ms and 23.4 ms during your simulation? I assume those «forced» spikes should be in addition to the spikes the neuron anyway fires, driven by input? Should these «forced» spikes affect the adapting mechanism in the neuron or just be added to the output spike train?
Best, Hans Ekkehard
On 21 Oct 2019, at 08:58, Nikolaos Chrysanthidis <nchr@kth.semailto:nchr@kth.se> wrote:
? Dear NEST users,
I would like to ask you if there is any way to have an AdEx neuron model firing at specific times (ms) in NEST.
Kind regards, _______________________________________________ NEST Users mailing list -- users@nest-simulator.orgmailto:users@nest-simulator.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@nest-simulator.orgmailto:users-leave@nest-simulator.org _______________________________________________ NEST Users mailing list -- users@nest-simulator.orgmailto:users@nest-simulator.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@nest-simulator.orgmailto:users-leave@nest-simulator.org
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Prof. Dr. Hans Ekkehard Plesser Head, Data Science Section
Faculty of Science and Technology Norwegian University of Life Sciences PO Box 5003, 1432 Aas, Norway
Phone +47 6723 1560 Email hans.ekkehard.plesser@nmbu.no Home http://arken.nmbu.no/~plesser
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