Exception handling in NEST

List overview All Threads
Download

newer

older

NEST Conference 2019 /...

Open NEST Developer Video...

Itaru Kitayama

26 Apr 2019 26 Apr '19

1:56 p.m.

Hi, Am I able to safely comment out all those exception handling codes provided they're provided for the defensive purposes? I ask because I am trying to insert offloading directives into the NEST code base wherever I can. Thanks, Itaru.

Attachments:

attachment.html (text/html — 334 bytes)

Show replies by date

Hans Ekkehard Plesser

29 Apr 29 Apr

11:49 p.m.

Dear Itaru, Could you be more specific about where you would like to remove exception handling code and why? In general, I would be rather reluctant to remove exception handling code. Best, Hans Ekkehard

...

On 26 Apr 2019, at 13:56, Itaru Kitayama <itaru.kitayama(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi, Am I able to safely comment out all those exception handling codes provided they're provided for the defensive purposes? I ask because I am trying to insert offloading directives into the NEST code base wherever I can. Thanks, Itaru. _______________________________________________ NEST Users mailing list -- users(a)nest-simulator.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)nest-simulator.org

Itaru Kitayama

1 May 1 May

7:33 a.m.

Hans, Not limited to this part of code, though for example, we have in nestkernle/simulation_manager.cpp [...] #pragma omp target teams distribute parallel for for(int i=0;i<len;i++) { // We update in a parallel region. Therefore, we need to catch // exceptions here and then handle them after the parallel region. //try //{ if ( not( *node )->is_frozen() ) { ( *node )->update( clock_, from_step_, to_step_ ); } //} /*catch ( std::exception& e ) { // so throw the exception after parallel region exceptions_raised.at( tid ) = lockPTR< WrappedThreadException >( new WrappedThreadException( e ) ); }*/ ++node; } OpenMP offload doesn't support exception handling on devices, so any loop that can be offloadable, but contains exception handling, can we safely comment out? Itaru. On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 6:49 AM Hans Ekkehard Plesser < hans.ekkehard.plesser(a)nmbu.no> wrote:

...

On 26 Apr 2019, at 13:56, Itaru Kitayama <itaru.kitayama(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

Hi, Am I able to safely comment out all those exception handling codes

provided

they're provided for the defensive purposes? I ask because I am trying to insert offloading directives into the NEST code base wherever I can. Thanks, Itaru. _______________________________________________ NEST Users mailing list -- users(a)nest-simulator.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)nest-simulator.org

Hans Ekkehard Plesser

9:53 p.m.

Dear Itaru, Short answer: For experimental purposes, you can remove those try-catch blocks and NEST will continue to work. Longer answer: Handling exceptions in multithreaded code is difficult in C++, since C++ does not support exception handling across threads, at least not when using OpenMP threads. To handle potential exceptions safely, we therefore handle exceptions inside each thread-parallel context, store them and then re-throw them as soon as we reach a single-threaded context. This allows us to provide proper error messages. If you remove the error-handling code and an exception is thrown in a parallel context, NEST will crash, because the exception is never caught. Typical situations where such exceptions could occur is during parallel connection if trying to make invalid connections, or when encountering numerical instabilities, e.g. due to the exponential term in aeif neurons. To ensure proper error handling in NEST, we need to keep the per-thread error handling in the master branch, but for experimental purposes it can be removed without changing the way NEST works. Best, Hans Ekkehard

...

On 1 May 2019, at 07:33, Itaru Kitayama <itaru.kitayama(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hans, Not limited to this part of code, though for example, we have in nestkernle/simulation_manager.cpp [...] #pragma omp target teams distribute parallel for for(int i=0;i<len;i++) { // We update in a parallel region. Therefore, we need to catch // exceptions here and then handle them after the parallel region. //try //{ if ( not( *node )->is_frozen() ) { ( *node )->update( clock_, from_step_, to_step_ ); } //} /*catch ( std::exception& e ) { // so throw the exception after parallel region exceptions_raised.at( tid ) = lockPTR< WrappedThreadException >( new WrappedThreadException( e ) ); }*/ ++node; } OpenMP offload doesn't support exception handling on devices, so any loop that can be offloadable, but contains exception handling, can we safely comment out? Itaru. On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 6:49 AM Hans Ekkehard Plesser <hans.ekkehard.plesser(a)nmbu.no> wrote: Dear Itaru, Could you be more specific about where you would like to remove exception handling code and why? In general, I would be rather reluctant to remove exception handling code. Best, Hans Ekkehard

-- Prof. Dr. Hans Ekkehard Plesser Head, Data Science Section Faculty of Science and Technology Norwegian University of Life Sciences PO Box 5003, 1432 Aas, Norway Phone +47 6723 1560 Email hans.ekkehard.plesser(a)nmbu.no Home http://arken.nmbu.no/~plesser _______________________________________________ NEST Users mailing list -- users(a)nest-simulator.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)nest-simulator.org

Itaru Kitayama

2 May 2 May

7:45 a.m.

Hans, Thanks for your detailed answer. I think I never encountered an event where an exception was thrown in real life, so as you suggest I'll go ahead and remove as needed. Thanks, Itaru. On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 4:53 AM Hans Ekkehard Plesser < hans.ekkehard.plesser(a)nmbu.no> wrote:

...

On 1 May 2019, at 07:33, Itaru Kitayama <itaru.kitayama(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

Hans, Not limited to this part of code, though for example, we have in

nestkernle/simulation_manager.cpp

[...] #pragma omp target teams distribute parallel for for(int i=0;i<len;i++) { // We update in a parallel region. Therefore, we need to catch // exceptions here and then handle them after the parallel

region.

//try //{ if ( not( *node )->is_frozen() ) { ( *node )->update( clock_, from_step_, to_step_ ); } //} /*catch ( std::exception& e ) { // so throw the exception after parallel region exceptions_raised.at( tid ) = lockPTR< WrappedThreadException ( new WrappedThreadException( e ) ); }*/ ++node; } OpenMP offload doesn't support exception handling on devices, so any

loop that can be offloadable, but

contains exception handling, can we safely comment out? Itaru. On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 6:49 AM Hans Ekkehard Plesser <

hans.ekkehard.plesser(a)nmbu.no> wrote:

Dear Itaru, Could you be more specific about where you would like to remove

exception handling code and why? In general, I would be rather reluctant to remove exception handling code.

Best, Hans Ekkehard > On 26 Apr 2019, at 13:56, Itaru Kitayama <itaru.kitayama(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> > Hi, > Am I able to safely comment out all those exception handling codes

provided

> they're provided for the defensive purposes? I ask because I am trying

insert offloading directives into the NEST code base wherever I can. Thanks, Itaru. _______________________________________________ NEST Users mailing list -- users(a)nest-simulator.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)nest-simulator.org

2060

days inactive

2066

days old

users@nest-simulator.org

Manage subscription

4 comments

2 participants

tags (0)

participants (2)

Hans Ekkehard Plesser
Itaru Kitayama